No Windows 7 ‘Upgrade’ Edition for EU

PRICES HAVE BEEN RELEASED
link: http://tech.yahoo.com/news/nm/20090625/tc_nm/us...

basically,
home premium 200
professional 300
ultimate 320

upgrades
100
200
220 respectively

50 bucks for hoem premium if preordered before july 11

Of course this is the US pricing that takes into account the 'available' upgrade versions. This could mean that, once again, EU citizens get an extremely bad value for money deal.

MICROSOFT!!!!!
Stop screwing over EU customers!
Why can't you just bundle a number of different browsers in all editions and stop your stupid special EU editions!?!
This is causing brief and pain to all genuine Windows owners in EU! Is this your plan?

Methinks you're shouting at the wrong people. None of this would be happening if the EU didn't insist on meddling in every little aspect of life. :(

No, EU is right. Microsoft has had too much dominance.
Microsoft could easily solve this by just putting in more browsers in the Windows offering, but no, despite the suggestions of the EU, they strip the browser instead.
Fine. But then again, that screws over everyone who purchases it at retail since they will have no browser at all! They can't even download another one!
And then they remove the upgrade paths.
This is just plain wrong.

Microsoft must learn to cooperate.

They did not "remove" the upgrade path. They would have to _create_ it, which would cost a lot of time and money, and I can't blame them one tiny bit for not doing the work just because some f*cking undemocratic bureaucrat wants to meddle.

Putting another browser (Which one? All of them? You gotta be kidding me. Hey, actually, I wrote a browser once, too!) is a HUGE amount of work. These browsers aren't made to be installed with Windows, they are not serviceable by Windows Update or other means, and you can't force Microsoft to do the work to ensure they have no vulnerabilities.

No one "asked" them to make them "servicable." The companies whose browsers we use everyday has their own update machanisms.
What is so hard about bundling Firefox, Opera, Chrome and Safari with Windows? I believe those are the biggest browsers out there.
Had Microsoft included those in ALL editions, not just trying to comply to EU locally, they wouldn't be in this mess. One upgrade path.

And what bureaucrats are more corrupt? EU or US, who will not even sign the green-peace thingy?
Come on.
EU can be a pain in the ass on Microsoft, but that doesn't mean it should screw over its customers. Listen to the EU instead of fighting it!

Most people don't care what browsers Windows contain. You are proposing that users, and more importantly, IT departments have to manage not one, but four or more browsers, just because some socialists think it's "fair." Microsoft almost never includes third party applications with their products, anymore, because it's been a huge pain in the past.

The upgrade path is an even bigger work item. Microsoft would need to write code to migrate other browser's settings from one version to next, be able to upgrade their code, and all that with no guarantee that the whole alien thing won't change and stop working in next minor release.

You have no idea how huge amount of work this is.

How exactly does Microsoft screw their customers over by selling an OS with their browser? Doesn't Apple do the same?

EU is pain in the ass for the poor subjects who suffer under its yoke.

Most people don't know* that there are other browsers, because all they ever know is IE, because it comes default. It's no secret that it's the most widely used browser.
IT Departments don't have to manage several browsers. They usually have a lot of control over their computers and can easily choose one they will allow on their computers.

And I think you're overly pessimistic about the upgrade path. All the software settings (ie local machine/current user\software) should be copied (except for system-specific settings there) and the %appdata% folder.
But even if it means additional testing, it isn't a whole lot. Not a lot at all.

At least Apple isn't using monopoly. But I don't use Apples computers, so I cannot speak for the subject.

Perhaps I don't know the work that must be behind, but I do have some idea. And I think Microsoft should do it.

And finally, Microsoft is a pain in the ass for the poor subjects who wants computers, and I don't mean just this upgrade fiasco.

RE Even More Anonymous
June 26, 2009 at 5:07 am

Windows is installed as an image. You cannot add or remove parts without losing upgradeability (individual updates still work, but service packs or upgrades do not). Therefore the IT departments would have to support their own custom-built Windows image, or all of the browsers. The same goes for home users.

You are using a very twisted definition of a "monopoly." Microsoft certainly has no monopoly, what they have is a dominant position in one specific market. Microsoft is doing the same thing as every other sane OS vendor, but since they are more successful than others, it's more okay for socialists to fuck with them.

Yeah, MS may be the PITA for you, but hey, you can at least not use their stuff. You can't so easily escape the undemocratic unjust greeno-communist insanity that EU has become.