What will Apple’s response be to Windows 7, Part 3 (The Reckoning)

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It’s been a great many years since Apple and Microsoft fans started bashing each other in forums and chat rooms, both ardent supporters of their corner and determined to fight to the death to win the argument.  Yesterday, I wrote part 2 of this article series and it caused some considerable debate.  I have to say the quality of the debate was generally very high and balanced.  There was one comment though that I thought made a good point about anyone who writes about Microsoft or Apple at the moment.

Andy Clarke wrote “How much are Microsoft paying you guys at Windows7news.com?  All I’m hearing is blinkered and biased propaganda from you guys.”

Yesterday I wrote that I believe that all operating systems these days are pretty much the same, Windows, Mac OS X and GNU/Linux (Yes, I stand corrected on that one) and that to the casual observer it was hard sometimes to tell them apart.  I went on to say that I believed anyone who said that one was better than any other really should be saying it’s just better “for them”.

It’s quite common though nowadays for commentators such as ourselves to be accused of bias.  This is Windows7News after all, so our remit is to write about Windows 7.  We don’t have a Mac focus so wouldn’t be writing about that unless, as is the case with this article series, it’s relevant to our core subject.

It can be difficult to balance objective writing sometimes when you’re only mentioning other products in passing.  This goes doubly so, I believe, for OS X because of the strong feelings people have about it.

Apple make quite exceptional products.  The iPod created almost on its own the market for MP3 players and iTunes has led the way in selling downloadable music.  Both of these are great for consumers.  The iPhone has revolutionised the small smartphone market which I, with an HTC Touch HD, am benefiting from and truly appreciate.  The iMac finally made computers acceptable in the living room and, I think, has significantly boosted the market for all-in-one PCs and, in a sideways kind’a way, has helped boost Windows Media Centre.

There are people who believe that Apple is abusing a potentially monopolistic market position, though obviously not with the Mac, and is being ignored in exactly the same way as Microsoft isn’t.   Let me be clear on this.  For many years, Microsoft was in the same boat, being ignored and abusing a monopolistic position.  It’s won’t last for Apple, but nobody can begrudge them having a go for as long as they can get away with it, that’s business!  What the future holds for Microsoft and Apple regards legislation and monopolies commissions is anybody’s guess at this stage.

I don’t personally believe that the status quo, regards the market share occupied by Apple and Microsoft, will change in the next decade or so.  It would have to take something disasterous on Microsoft’s part, like Apple writing an OS for PCs, to change that.  Even then we’re all creatures of habit and generally resistant to change.

Do I own any products by Apple.  Let me come right out now and say no.  I don’t own any kind of MP3 player, I bought an HTC phone because you can’t (yet) create Excel files on the iPhone (though I’m open to the possibility of buying one) and, much as I love the look and power of iMacs, I think they’re simply too expensive and enjoy building my own computers anyway.  Windows is good “for me”.

As for the rest of you, I’m personally very surprised by how many of you run both PCs and Macs (would confuse the hell out of me).  Keep it up, and keep the conversation flowing.

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  • the MP
    that is definitely how many apple people act like and i called that guy out on it. its one of the reasons i pretty much refuse to own anything apple. im forced to use a mac at work cause my industry thinks it needs it to work with video, but at least i wont buy one. to think that some of my work made on a 2k custom pc beat out other projects made in thousand dollar mac powered 'studios'
  • Matt
    @ the MP
    Well I was forced to use a PC at school for Multimedia because our school thought it would be "cheaper" turned out it was more expensive due to the HPs and Dells always breaking down for various reasons. And I might add that a business PC is not the way to go for Multimedia of any kind... That said it created anarchy for everyone involved, myself included.
    I might add while I use Mac and prefer OS X over Windows I am NOT a fan boy, it's just what I like, a personal preference.
  • Braden
    I use PC's in my daily job at a design company, and find no issues with them. We have three PC's and 3 mac's in our company. I used a Mac for 4 years, and become a convert for a while, believing them to be superior. Problem is design universities often play up, how awesome mac's are, and they constantly state no designers use Pc's. Well it was interesting to switch to mac for 4 years and learn the ins and outs of being a mac user (i was a pc user for 5 years before this). Been back on PC (vista) for 2 years(now Win 7), and couldn't be happier. PC's are cheaper, much more software (and better prgrammed generally), faster software patch/service pack turn around, much better gfx cards, cheaper and better RAM, faster processors, tons of games, more customisable, and you can get very high quality parts (that look equally pleasing as mac stuff) if you know what you are looking for. If I ever get a virus, my virus protector finds and deletes it almost instantly. Besides people can afford multiple HD's, just backup everything and nuke windows if you ever run into serious problems. Mac is a good, stable, and attractive OS, and it's lack of games, may help you focus on your work. Mac just lacks to much for someone like me, who wants the latest and most well prgrammed release of 3D applications like Maya, Mudbox, Zbrush, etc. One day I will switch back to a mac, to make sure I don't become to bias....I could go on about the pros and cons of each OS, but yeah Mac is good, but for me, PC's are better at the moment. Anyway playing with the lastest tech is cool, and the wait between Win Xp and Win Vista was massive, so Mac OSX, filled that gap. Maybe the wait between Win 7 and Win 8, or Win 8 and 9 I will switch back to mac. There is a lot of fanatics out, their, they should just go out and buy a mac, and use them for at least 6 months, before making great critiques
  • Danny
    I have to say with all the fanboys on either side foaming at the mouth with insults and overly simplified and exaggerated examples of why the other is crap, I really like this writeup and its conclusion that it all comes down to personal preferrence.  I don't own a Mac, but I use to use my sister's a lot.  I found it to be as advertisted: easy and simple to use.  I used to be really into Linux.  At one time all of my computer were running nothing else but Linux.  But in the end I'm a Windows PC guy.  I have nothing against Apple, I love Linux, but when all is said and done Windows is just the best fit for me.  I think if you're running around with stickers and t-shirts of the OS your computer is using you're probably more emotional invested and brand loyal than being a smart and rational consummer.
  • Andy Clarke
    For the record, I use a Vista machine, a Windows 7RC machine and an OS X machine.  I’ve used both Windows and OS X for a long time principally because neither of them will do everything I want them to do.
    I've been described as an ‘apple fan boi’ when I’m nothing of the sort.  On another site, not so long ago, I was seen to be criticising the graphics capabilities of macs.
    What I do find irritating, and ultimately pretty pointless, is biased reporting.  The author claims that because this is a Windows site that a little bias in its reporting is inevitable.  That's as maybe, but it's not the point.  The point, surely, is that this site purports to be a news site?  Biased news is pretty worthless, unless you're a windows fan boi who is willing to lap up every windows tid bit someone might throw at you...
  • yolarrydabomb
    cant we all get along
     
    Windows and Mac User...
  • First, let me qualify by saying that before switching to Mac in 2002, I had spent the previous decade on unix systems. 5 of those years predominantly with NeXT Mach OS (NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP), which evolved into OS X. Add an assortment of BSD, SysV and linux boxes along the way, and usually some Windows box or partition for gaming.
    No fanboy-ism here, I just like operating systems that work, especially if they have a sophisticated or particularly elegant user interface.


    To answer the question:
    Why would Apple need to have any sort of response at all? Windows is an OS for the masses, OS X is for people that specifically want to run OS X, for a variety of reasons.

    My Mac Pro has 8 cores, 14 gigs of ram, and a 600gb RAID. It was about a $2k computer. Could you build a PC with similar specs for less? Yes. $2k is too stiff for most, but that's the buy-in price if you want to join the club. I will say that a Mac Pro has a longer life span than any PC. As a PC user, I upgraded every year to stay bleeding edge. As a Mac user, I buy a new Mac Pro every 4 years and give the old one to one of the kids.

    Is it better than Windows? Sure, but now you are asking something that is going to elicit a SUBJECTIVE response. My subjective response is that unix is superior to NT, both in terms of robustness and administration. I also feel that the OS X GUI is light years ahead of Windows. Vista introduced visual improvements that made it appear more like a modern OS, but we're still talking about an interface that is not a long stretch from Windows 95.

    Give 100 normal users a Mac Pro and make them use it exclusively for 90 days. I bet 3 out of 4, or better, end up preferring the Mac. That's the beauty of OS X. It's a system that appeals equally to sysadmins and users alike.

    Lastly, I used to think the same way you did, resenting Apple's closed hardware model and thinking it was dumb.

    It isn't dumb, it's one of their biggest strengths. That point became apparent to me in my first 6 months as a Mac user back in 2002. Everything just works on a Mac, and the reason for that is that Apple knows exactly what hardware you're using. The OS itself is rock solid, and applications that display poor behavior are much, much less common in OS X. Developers don't have to consider the billions of hardware combinations you may have, they know what you have.

    Gaming? Well, I always did like games on a big screen with 5.1 sound, and I have a 360 and a PS3 for that. The Mac also makes a pretty good game machine between native games, DOSbox for the classics, and Parallels or VMWare running XP for more recent games that aren't available on the 360 or PS3.

    I enjoy my system immensely, both hardware and software, and I will evangelize it to anyone who wants to listen. What I won't do is shove my opinions down your throat, unless you ask for them. I don't have much patience for people who go around bashing things they aren't qualified to have an opinion on.
    .-= Michael Lankton´s last blog ..Klipsch Sells Aragon And Acurus Brands =-.
  • g1lmour
    @ Michael
     
    'Give 100 normal users a Mac Pro and make them use it exclusively for 90 days. I bet 3 out of 4, or better, end up preferring the Mac. That’s the beauty of OS X. It’s a system that appeals equally to sysadmins and users alike.'


    unfortunately a university in the UK found 50 students that have not used windows, mac or linux, and gave them a month to try each one out, (they were trying to end the debate) 42 users picked the windows machine, 6 picked the mac and 2 picked the linux (ubuntu flavour).


    this was back when vista had just launched and the new mac OSX had just launched aswell, maybe it is a bit different now, just thought id clarify that


    - g1lmour
  • Fair enough. My only experience is with my wife and mother, who were both Windows users and thought my Mac predilection was silly, and now wouldn't think of buying anything but a Mac.

    I'm obviously biased as I've been using the OS for the last 13 years, and could write sonnets about it. In fact, I probably have on Connected Internet.
    .-= Michael Lankton´s last blog ..Klipsch Sells Aragon And Acurus Brands =-.
  • Now wait a second. You said in the UK. That's the clincher. You guys are funny about computers. You like RISC OS!

    :)
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